Thursday, July 23, 2009

Should Christians get tattoos?





Earlier today one of my facebook friends Richie Righteous posted the question, Should Christians get tattoos? as a status update. At the time of this posting the tread generated 121 comments. Here are a few of the comments.


Richie Righteous--What yall think about Christians getting tattoos?
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Karlene Roberts
Karlene Roberts
ok
10 hours ago

Roger Prince
Roger Prince
No tattos no piercing ... your body is a temple....
10 hours ago

David Hobday
David Hobday
ay it is pretty safe to say that we will not upset God if we don't get one. right?
10 hours ago

Reuel Pompey
Reuel Pompey
Feeling what tomel saying... I agree bro
10 hours ago

Sade Jackson
Sade Jackson
David, it is love that fulfills the law. We cannot. But we can love God which is the first and greatest commandment (Matthew 22:37-38). And Jesus said if we love Him, we ought to keep His commandments (John 14:15). We no longer try to keep the law to OBTAIN salvation - that's OT. We keep God's commandments as a result of our salvation because we love Him and aim to please Him. We aim to please those we really love.
10 hours ago

Errol Chapman
Errol Chapman
Question: Why do you want a Tattoo? you are just trying to confirm to the world because its happening in a time when its the "Ting". simple example, This topic would not have came up 50 years ago simply because Tattoo was not the ting at that time. Bretheren, a lot of illicit things are being accepted in our day and time but we need to be careful. "be not confirmed to this world but be ye Trasnformed by the RENEWING OF YOUR MIND" if your mind is renewed, you will not think Tatoo. Bless!
10 hours ago

Sandra Brown
Sandra Brown
Me personally I donot like tatoos but to each his own and it all depends on what type
of tatoo.
10 hours ago

Jermaine J
Jermaine J
wow it seems that God's people are still not yet on one accord.....if we are questioning what the Bible says word for word then we DO have a problem!
10 hours ago

Sade Jackson
Sade Jackson
Yes Tomel! We should all seek God about how to live... not other people. And we can find out what God's will is by praying, fasting, and reading His word. All three are essential. However, God speaks to us PRIMARILY through His word.
10 hours ago

David Hobday
David Hobday
so we should be aiming to please God. will a tattoo do that?
10 hours ago

Shawn Page
Shawn Page
can you glorify God with a tat to witness the Gospel??...can I glorify God by going out and robbing JUST ONE BANK as a witnessing tool?
sade..yes..that was a perfect biblical answer for the wine
Tomel...LOLOLOL...eat yo meat...lol
10 hours ago

Tomel CleverGemz Waters
Tomel CleverGemz Waters
Uhh yea That law has already been fullfilled, Through christ.... We are To be the likeness of Christ none the less which would be Love as Sade said .... if I have to be all specific.. No greater Love than a Man lay down his life for his Brother.. Love is the action of knowing when to Take action...
10 hours ago

Sade Jackson
Sade Jackson
K Shawn (smile)

Amen Tomel. Also, don't forget to love oneself. One cannot love her neighbor as herself if she doesn't love herself. This includes refraining from getting tattoos. (chuckle)
10 hours ago

Sade Jackson
Sade Jackson
No David, a tattoo will not please God because He has outlawed it. :)
10 hours ago

Tomel CleverGemz Waters
Tomel CleverGemz Waters
LOL @ Sade she got "Last Word" Syndrome....ok can get the last word... ala Paul vs, Silas... I'll head south..
10 hours ago

Kerri Berri
Kerri Berri
i feel as though getting any alterations done to the body is indirectly telling God that he didn't do a good enough job on creating you.
10 hours ago

Sade Jackson
Sade Jackson
Not the case Tomel. I was merely teasing you. My bad.
10 hours ago

Tomel CleverGemz Waters
Tomel CleverGemz Waters
see you got the last word again.... lol... and i was just teasin you back sis.. no harm no foul...
10 hours ago

Lamar Gibbs
Lamar Gibbs
"We no longer try to keep the law to OBTAIN salvation - that's OT."

No Sade, that is not OT, that statement is actually unbiblical. The Jews didn't follow the Law to be saved, they were delivered and then God gave them the law to live as a people redeemed by Him. God has always been like this, just through different administrations, for Jesus came... Read More in grace and truth. We are under the Law of Christ, which still contain many of what the Law of Moses states, but is a better covenanty and amore sure one, for Jesus Christ upholds it forever and is out High Priest. It's like having a NY license and a license from another, the rules are almost similar but there may be certain things you can do in one you can't do in NY. The Leviticus verse was about what nations around them did in worshipping the dead, not a verse against tatoos, but skin markings.
10 hours ago

Sade Jackson
Sade Jackson
Oh, LOL! I see we have something in common. (hearty chuckle) :)
10 hours ago

Ashley Meertins
Ashley Meertins
i honestly believe that God wants us to be like Jesus. Be a follower of Jesus and act and do as He would. the question you have to ask is " Would Jesus sit in a tattoo parlor to get his skin peirced up with a tatto gun?" even if He tattoo's bible scriptures on Him, I strongly believe Jesus would not do it because He doesn't need to show to the ... Read Moreworld he's a believer and use scriptural tattoos to implying that. Your actions and your christian mindset should be an example of your faith, not a tattoo.

a tatoo is a thing of the world, and as christians we are not part of the world
10 hours ago

Reuel Pompey
Reuel Pompey
Pastor Lamar just stepped into the building!!!
10 hours ago

Karlene Roberts
Karlene Roberts
Lamar you laid it out.
10 hours ago

Sade Jackson
Sade Jackson
You're right Lamar. It has always God's grace that saved men, never the law... even in OT days. I said that because despite the purpose for which God gave the law, the Jews still became indifferent to the purpose behind it and tried to obtain salvation that way.

Question: What is the difference between tattoos and skin markings?
10 hours ago

Tomel CleverGemz Waters
Tomel CleverGemz Waters
Now you wanna ask the Question...I almsot got coral tunnell for nuthin
10 hours ago

Lamar Gibbs
Lamar Gibbs
Haha, Reuel you funny! But for real tho, I pray that we as Christians have an understanding of the Law and its relation to us, its use and ordination by God(Psalms 119 is all about the Torah, or the Law), and finally, if we don't understand how to interpret the Law, we can miss evangelizing the Jews, which Paul's heart absolutely broke for, and he ... Read Moreeven wanted to give up his salvation for them to understand what God was doing. His wisdom is manifold and we can trip and stumble when God "switches up", when in fact the essence of everything He does is the same, for it's from His nature to do truth and uphold righteousness! He is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Faith has always been accounted to righteousness(Abraham,Noah...Hebrews 11 is the chapter lol), the Law never did that, for that wasn't the purpose.
10 hours ago

Karlene Roberts
Karlene Roberts
wasn't the skin markings part of the dead worship?

Reuel, now I'm HOOKED!
10 hours ago

Sade Jackson
Sade Jackson
LOL @ Tomel. T, Lamar made a distinction between tattoos and skin markings so I want to know from his perspective what the difference is.
9 hours ago

Tomel CleverGemz Waters
Tomel CleverGemz Waters
yea yea ask away.....
9 hours ago

Lamar Gibbs
Lamar Gibbs
Yep, Karlene your right, and thats why God commanded the Israelites to not make sin markings, it wasn't like modern tatoos today at all. HOWEVER, if the focus of your tatoo brings it off of God, then you need to exercise wisdom and not get it but God doesn't condemn getting a tatoo...ima hear of this when I go to Jamaica Assembly of God tonight haha :)
9 hours ago

Steven Hadden
Steven Hadden
all i got to say to you RR cause i am not trying to debate... and since you put it out there i will say this..... book of levs does speak about it... all the bible scirptures and different points where good ones... but the bible clearly is against it.... but i know you gotta a son RR and your accountable for every thing you teach him, the behavior... Read More you display in front of him... and also you are a public figure and the CHRISTian community... if you flaunting tats at a youth services young men tend to gravitate to what rappers do... you wouldn't be showing them much differences from the world.. we as CHRISTians have a response abilty to be the light e different not embrace the worlds nonsense... being holy means being set a part for the masters uses... listening to worldly music isn't a sin ... but it can more damaging to your walk or possible someone elses.... WE AS BELIEVERS ARE UNDER THE MICROSCOPE............... LETS NOT GIVE THE WORLD MORE SLANDER ON US.......... GOD BLESS........
9 hours ago

Sade Jackson
Sade Jackson
I'm not sure I understand the difference... Can you explain further, if you don't mind? ('bout to leave work... I'll certainly see you a JA tonight but I'll check this blog later)
9 hours ago

Karlene Roberts
Karlene Roberts
very interesting discussion I must say....
9 hours ago

Lamar Gibbs
Lamar Gibbs
I'm sorry I meant skin markings, not sin markings. But yea, God forbade them to do this because of what the other culture around them were doing it for, it was to worship the dead, by marking their bodies...think of the story with Elijah and the priests of Baal marking themselves...these were the types of markings that nations around Israel were doing, and God forbade this because of the worship that would be given to another, and there should be no gods before YHWH
9 hours ago

Jason Lorick
Jason Lorick
I don't think its an issue of what scripture says...what the motivation is behibd wanting a tatoo after you have given ur life to Christ should be what's examined...
9 hours ago

Staci Ishmael
Staci Ishmael
I'm getting one :) so it's ok! ;)
9 hours ago

R. Shenell Thompson
R. Shenell Thompson
WOW
9 hours ago

Karlene Roberts
Karlene Roberts
LOL!
9 hours ago

Bryan K. Page
Bryan K. Page
Let's just come to the conclusion people, just agree to disagree, Jesus will explain it to us when we see Him face to face. Leave it to the King he will straightin us all out!
8 hours ago

Bryan K. Page
Bryan K. Page
I'm surely your not gonna debate with Him are you?
8 hours ago

Shawn Page
Shawn Page
Hosea was told to marry a adulterous women that eventually would be a prostitute and this glorified the Lord in the end to show Yahweh's(OT) love for Israel cause he bought back his wife and worked everything out to Glorify him...now wouldnt marrying a adulterous women be a sin NOWADAYS or marrying a prostitute that didnt know the Lord NOWADAYS be ... Read Morea sin????2 cor. 6:14..but later glorified him...what im trying to get out is this....YAHWEH(OT) knew it was going to glorify him in the end!...this is why i say let the Lord confirm it first through prayer or interpretation of messagers sent ya way, fleece...but if it to to glorify HIM...DO IT but by no means do it for anything else! IM not even going to get on the Ester/Xerxes marraige being a mixed marriage that was forbidden for Jew to marriage out of race..but yet glorified GOD in the end with a SAVED ISRAEL
8 hours ago

Barbara Davila
Barbara Davila
RICH, i know u about gettin the message out there,and in all reality, ppl gonna do what they want ,but
as long as WE ALL know that on the day of JUDGEMENT, u stand ALONE! just U and HIM!! ... i want to thank u for give us all something to THINK about!!
8 hours ago

Sade Jackson
Sade Jackson
I see what you're saying Lamar... thanks for explaining.

LOL @ Bryan... smh
8 hours ago

Jason Lorick
Jason Lorick
Agreeng to disagree is how new churches start in the basement bathroom. There is a necessaty for answers...
7 hours ago

Maria Rivas Cruz
Maria Rivas Cruz
I think that its a personal choice. In my house that personal choice happens after your on your own. In my home no tatoos, no piercings no negotiation.....
7 hours ago

Lydia Toussaint
Lydia Toussaint
I think its ok as long as its not anything satain orgin. It's cool what's ur thought
6 hours ago

Pleshette Hunt
Pleshette Hunt
Throw back msg board discussion,lol.
6 hours ago

Rivkah Ted
Rivkah Ted
interesting discussion... Just to make a few points... if something originated from paganism it's still pagan no matter hooooow many years down the line it came from. If markings on the skin was done when worshipping Baal it's still the same thing today. Satan is a deceiver, and he's subtle in how he does things. His tricks remain the same however ... Read Morewe try to justify it by saying 'It's not the same thing anymore' when it is! Alot of people get tats as a memorial for dead people (same context as when God originally said not to do it). Also I love Errols comment, people are always trying to be 'IN' with everyone else. Instead of witnessing to people we become no different. If someone can't tell the difference between you and a non-believer then what kind of witness are we? It's kinda like 'You fornicate? me too!!, you have a tat? me too! you smoke weed? Hey me too! cool!' How can you you then witness without seeming hypocritical?
2 hours ago

Rivkah Ted
Rivkah Ted
As a matter of fact if you DO end up helping someone come to the Lord when you're everything like the world, it may be detrimental to that new believer also because they might just become religious or hypocritical, getting involved in the latest trends Godly or ungodly just because it's 'COOL' or 'HOT'
2 hours ago

Rivkah Ted
Rivkah Ted
One last comment... If you're 'fearfully and wonderfully made' and 'made in the image and likeness of God' doesn't that mean you were perfect from the beginning? If He wanted us to be a witnessing tool in the sense that people are talking about with the tats wouldn't He have made us with the Bible written on our bodies rather than inspiring people to write the Word on paper??
2 hours ago


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Tuesday, July 21, 2009

719...Something In The Water, Part 1



When I was around nine years old my father moved to Colorado Springs, Colorado to live with my uncle. Being the youngest of three children and the only male I wanted nothing else but to live with my father. A year following his departure I was allowed to move to Colorado Springs, affectionately known as the Springs to the locals. I did not know what to expect when I moved out to the Springs. I was a kid from the pre-gentrified Lower East Side of Manhattan, the ghetto. I lived down the block from Alphabet City one of most drug riddled areas in the city and around the corner from the crack vile infested Sheriff Park. It was literally like something out of the movie New Jack City. When this is the status quo it all just seems so normal to you. I did not realize that I was a ghetto child until I moved to the Springs. But even there I was in the hood. We lived in the Hillside area in the South Side of town. The first friend I made on South Arcadia street was a boy named Mark Bobian. Mark's grandfather lived across the street from my matchbox sized duplex and we instantly hit it off. He was fascinated by a kid from New York that talked funny and I was just looking for a friend. Mark went on to become one of the leaders of the Chicano gang the Sureños and has since been murdered in an altercation at a house party. Mark was a great friend to me and he introduced me to a kid that would become one of my closest friends growing up named Juan Gallegos. Juan was a brawler and was always heavily into sports. He is currently a stand out player on a semi-pro football team. He always excelled in sports and has always managed to stay heavily active in that area. He has always been above average in almost everything that he has attempted. There must be something in the water.

I spent over ten years in the Springs before returning to New York City in 2001 and during that time I had the opportunity to be around some very talented and amazing people. The Springs has produced a wide array of creative and talented people from teachers, musicians, authors, and artists to photographers and radio personalities. And that is just to name a few. I plan to dedicated a handful of blog posts showcasing some of these individuals. Some of the individuals showcased I may not have known personally but I am sure that we share a common affection for the Springs. I do not know what it is about Colorado Springs that has produced so much talent and has received almost no notoriety but I'm proud to say that I came up there. All I can say is, there must be something in the water.

Please stay tuned and I hope that you enjoy this Mid-Western Ride! The blog post prior to this one features one such talent, Mr. J. Medeiros. Click here to check it out.